Curse

Azzurra · May 05, 2006, 08:13 AM // 08:13

first of all,my english sux ,try to understand me ,and if someone /sign , try to write this better

I exausted my 5 territorial change in last may ,when euro server was very lagged.

btw,now after 1 year...they are still at 0.

is a non sense,ok is done so,so you cant follow the "favor",but have to work in "short time period",not in "geological age"

ok,is possible to mail them and ask 1 last change.

but what i want to say is """

make it rechargable like 1 chage in 1 month,or buyable,like the extra slot..

Juk3n · May 05, 2006, 08:18 AM // 08:18

2 changes per month - (make it 2 incase u really have to change back for emergancy's ie: Heeding the Guild call) 2 changes a month wouln't hurt anything i think its an awsome idea...why not?

/signed

Azzurra · May 05, 2006, 01:19 PM // 13:19

/signed

i forgot

fiery · May 05, 2006, 01:50 PM // 13:50

NO NO NO NO NO, the only reason you moved was out of GREED, we have international districts. I doubt one server can lag terribly than we will have an upset of posts flaming up lag.

T1Cybernetic · May 05, 2006, 03:39 PM // 15:39

How do you know they moved out of greed, i personaly moved my
original account around the guildwars servers and have had no changes left for
a long time now, so i bought another account and left it on home "euro" so
that i could have more favour "fow & underworld" mostly.

I think changes like 1 or 2 per month couldnt hurt at all, im still confused as to
why we have to suffer having no favour? i dont pvp so why should it interfere
with my game?

If pvp'ers had to wait for some pug to clear underworld before
they could play a gvg or something i recon they would be pissed...

fiery · May 05, 2006, 04:01 PM // 16:01

Ok, why would you move territories?

Option one- You like moving around so much for pure joy and glee your stuck in one territory.

Option two- Moving back and forth, you can now tell your friends to went to America, Europe, Korea, etc.

Option three- THERE IS NO OTHER REASON WHY TO MOVE UNLESS TO USE FAVOR FROM THE WINNING TERRITORY.

Quote:

POSTED BY: T1Cybernetic
that i could have more favour "fow & underworld" mostly.

Greed.

T1Cybernetic · May 05, 2006, 04:32 PM // 16:32

you are wrong in my case, i like to play there because i find that generaly
you find much better pve players in fow and uw groups over all of the game.

I have no need for wealth in guildwars, used collectors weapons
since before time was time, so greed doesnt come into it, .

I have completed almost everything in prophecies and have factions on order
at the moment but the only thing i really play now is fissure and underworld.

Where is the greed in that, or am i completely misunderstanding what you are trying to say...

"EDIT"
I dont understand why you feel so strongly against it? arguments
usualy have some form of erm "constructive counter argument"

What i am saying is that favour only makes pve players have to pvp in order
to gain access to fissure and underworld which i feel is wrong as many people
only play pve where many other people only play guildwars pvp. see what i mean...

dawnrain · May 05, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33

/signed at 2 moves per month

Changing work shifts (morning, day, graveyard, etc.) leads to changing playing times leads to changing regions to play on most populous region during new play times.

I would guess most favor changes were not done out of greed.

Favor changes multiple times during the DAY, being able to change 2 times per MONTH isn't going to allow you to bypass the favor system.

Juk3n · May 05, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49

We will not hear a good argument agains 2 CHANGES per month, and personally (coming from euro servers) i play missions in Tyria and Factions all the time, for fun - shits and giggles, and i'd like to go to the USA servers and game with them for a while.

What could change? what u mean id get rich in 1 server change and single handedly un-balance the economy and ruin the game for 100,000's of people. er...no ftw!

2 changes would be gr8 just to see how the other half live.

Azzurra · May 08, 2006, 10:23 AM // 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiery

Ok, why would you move territories?

Option one- You like moving around so much for pure joy and glee your stuck in one territory.

Option two- Moving back and forth, you can now tell your friends to went to America, Europe, Korea, etc.

Option three- THERE IS NO OTHER REASON WHY TO MOVE UNLESS TO USE FAVOR FROM THE WINNING TERRITORY.

Greed.

mm probably you are a new user or whtvr,in europe from end of april of 2005 to end of august..you simply cant play..cuz the server have a massive lag problem...and i mean 30 40 seconds of "allthethingsfreezedbutidiedthesame" i tried some change in this 2 month and i RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up my ticket.

btw option 4 -lag

option 5 -you need ppl and when you play no one is in

option 6 -guild of another country?

option 7-i want to change territory

option 8-something !!!111

btw,i have 2 account 1 in euro,and 1 in america,but i want to move them as i need.

o GW is a long period time game..6 or 7 years...in the next 2 years i still reamin at 0 change?

Dougal Kronik · May 08, 2006, 08:30 PM // 20:30

/not signed

I haven't changed once and don't think I ever will use any of those changes.

If I could, I'd give you mine.

teh_noob_pwner · May 08, 2006, 09:04 PM // 21:04

/not signed

it will mess pvp up...If you wana farm goto Euro

If you wana make friends who speak good english goto America

Simple...4 switches is plenty

Epinephrine · May 09, 2006, 01:29 PM // 13:29

I think the limit is good, but it's a dumb limit. 5? There are two territories to move between, and 5 is an odd number. You end up stuck in your non-home territory. 4 or 6 would be better.

As for extra moves? Charge for them. I'd be fine if people want to pay a 5 dollar processing fee per change. It would help those who really do have a reason to change (went back and forth a few times, maybe trying out a new guild or something, ran out of uses, now want to change to join a new guild but it's in the wrong servers.?) and would be very difficult to abuse... switching twice a month would be 10 dollars a month, or 120 a year - hardly seems like a smart way to play, but it would give them an out, and would set ANet up for a bit of extra cash flow to make up for the PITA of having individual requests for changes coming in. If you tried to change to whichever area had favour every night your credit card bill would be a mile long, so little fear of it becoming a farmer's tool. With the vendors now linked internationally there isn't as much reason to limit the flow of people (though I still think that it shouldn't be easy, thus the fee) - originally the differences in price meant that you could actually turn profits moving things between europe and NA, but that's not really a concern now.

Mandy Memory · May 09, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic

How do you know they moved out of greed, i personaly moved my
original account around the guildwars servers and have had no changes left for
a long time now, so i bought another account and left it on home "euro" so
that i could have more favour "fow & underworld" mostly.

I think changes like 1 or 2 per month couldnt hurt at all, im still confused as to
why we have to suffer having no favour? i dont pvp so why should it interfere
with my game?

If pvp'ers had to wait for some pug to clear underworld before
they could play a gvg or something i recon they would be pissed...

I regret to inform you that you wrote the definition on greed with your post. You are asking for something so that you can get whatever you want (In this case, more FoW and UW time)

So yes, all territory changes consist of is greed.

(the amount of changes is 4...if you created your account before a certain time you still have 5 though.)

FoxBat · May 09, 2006, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Silly village people.

The favor system exists *because* of the 5 change limit, not the other way around.

Notice that this is the exact number you get for changing most DVD drive regions, and that is non-renewable as well. Coincidence? I think not.

dargon · May 09, 2006, 05:35 PM // 17:35

Boy it would be nice if people actually read things, such as the warnings when you change your area, the update notes on the guildwars site, etc. The number of times you can change areas is FOUR, it was originally 5, but they made it FOUR so you can leave, come back, leave come back quite a few months ago now.

T1Cybernetic · May 09, 2006, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Ok. i like many others would like to know.

Why should people who pve have to rely on pvp to get access to parts of pve?
especialy when i do not play pvp in any way, i much prefer to wonder off in my
own piece of map and play around a bit, not harming anyone or anything in any
way, but i have to wait for someone to get favour or go and do it myself...

Call it Greed, call it what you like but i seriously dont see why favour is and was
implemented in the first place, as it is highly unfair to someone who doesnt pvp
and i feel that it should be changed.

Give me the reason for favour so that i can understand it fully cos i just dont get it
it doesnt help anyone really and it only makes threads like this one on many forums.

In my oppinion it should be either removed from the game or people should be allowed
to change their territory around a bit, not when they like but a bit more flexability
would be a real nice option for everyone...

"EDIT"
Im currently onto my 3rd copy of guildwars now, 2 euro accounts and one american.
i have all changes on my new account and 5 changes on my other euro account and
1 last change on the account i have put on america, it's nothing to do with greed really
because i can almost go into underworld and fissure when ever i feel like anyhow but
not everyone has accounts growing on trees, . Gotta love the storage, ...

Mandy Memory · May 09, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

If you are a pve player you prolly like some level of rp. Using that logic, how can you convince a god to teleport you to an area he dominates to farm his items without the "Favor of the gods".

Thats like me telling some foreign dictator that he needs to pay for a plane to fly me to his country so I can start a farm.

Azzurra · May 16, 2006, 01:14 PM // 13:14

no rpoblem here for farm,cuz i own 2 accounts too..and i think all the ppl playing form 1years+ have 2 or more account and a lot of money;is a simple too restrictive thing...is not a "give me a reason thing" cuz is clear it can be usefull if they give us a buyable/rechargeble things

jummeth · May 16, 2006, 01:36 PM // 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxBat

Silly village people.

The favor system exists *because* of the 5 change limit, not the other way around.

Notice that this is the exact number you get for changing most DVD drive regions, and that is non-renewable as well. Coincidence? I think not.

Lol O/T but you can just flash your DVD drive to get your 5 territory changes back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by teh_noob_power

/not signed

it will mess pvp up...If you wana farm goto Euro

If you wana make friends who speak good english goto America

Simple...4 switches is plenty

I beg to differ. The english of EU servers are generally of a better quality. =P